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lg5000 · Nov 16, 2006, 04:08 AM // 04:08

Out of curiosity, would it be possible to have the skill hunter title the way it is as well as having one per campaign? That way, if I wanna show off that I've capped over 200 skills I can, but if I prefer a specific campaign, I can also show that.

Definatly would prefer showing off how much overall work I've done to JUST showing that I capped in one campaign. It, in a way, defeats the purpose of the skill hunter title.

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Originally Posted by Thalion Galad

'' my wa/mo is going to cap '' peace and harmony '' very usefull for a wa/mo'' or a mo/wa caping ''warroir's Endurance'' seeing the hole pick recaping skills cause they give a title but your char is not going to use them. another skin hole...

The most usless skill for a skill hunter who's not a monk is probably spell breaker

On the other hand, due to the skill hunter title, I now have heros who can use any elite I feel like, where suddenly, spell breaker might come in useful.

jackie · Nov 16, 2006, 04:20 AM // 04:20

/signed

This would be a very lovely change

Juicey Shake · Nov 16, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39

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Originally Posted by Hockster

Remove titles completely. They mean nothing at all, and are completely grind related. I realize that Anet is bound and determined, for whatever reason, to try and remove all the gold from characters by continually creating titles that are nothing but gold sinks (putting in a Drunkard title in a game aimed at 13 year olds? good idea there).

Instead of coming out with more silly titles, maybe release a finished game instead, and not do like EA does and release a poorly tested and implemented game, actually fix the stuck character issues, or fix the numerous Z axis issues that still crop up on nearly every bridge.

There are so many other items that should be resolved first, but I guess adding ridiculous titles is much more important.

Thanks for nothing.

yes, anet, please, I mean, gosh-- once you finish the game having any reason other than pvp to continue playing should surely be removed.

I vote yes on seperate 3 titles & all the international snazziness.. Multiple tiers of the KoaBD title that won't be impossible to reach will be nice nice nice.

YunSooJin · Nov 16, 2006, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Well, KoaBD was cool during the first two chapters, because it was genuinely hard, but now its pretty easy. I don't see it as really all that prestigious.

PKM will be the new title to-get. And whatever after that will simply be 'godly' until Ch4 makes its appearance.

Kcp · Nov 16, 2006, 04:49 AM // 04:49

KoABD isn't that big of a deal titlewise to begin with don't kid yourselves. How many people running around with it ebayed gold to purchase beer, keys, rares etc to get it. Of course most will say they didn't, but we know thats how some people take the easy route.

And yes the titles should be campaign specific due to other players not owning all campaigns, and they won't max out until the last GW's installment.

YunSooJin · Nov 16, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51

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Originally Posted by Kcp

KoABD isn't that big of a deal titlewise to begin with don't kid yourselves. How many people running around with it ebayed gold to purchase beer, keys, rares etc to get it. Of course most will say they didn't, but we know thats how some people take the easy route.

And yes the titles should be campaign specific due to other players not owning all campaigns, and they won't max out until the last GW's installment.

yeah, people are going to spend ~80bucks/million so they can ID items..yeah right.

Please stop sound ignorant - KoaBD is easy to get because you can get 6 max titles relatively easily:
Protector of Tyria/Elona/Cantha
Grandmaster Cartographer for Tyria/Elona/Cantha

-_- People need to stop pulling the ebay card to make themselves feel better.

Sli Ander · Nov 16, 2006, 04:54 AM // 04:54

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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro

Further, I love the idea of "international" titles, with one caveat: I would like them to automatically update and drop the player one level whenever a new campaign is released. I know this could be seen as a ploy to get people to buy into new chapters, but I don't think it would be fair to call someone an "international" anything if they haven't traveled to all areas available. I'd rather have a 3/4 rank when Chapter 4 comes out than see someone still getting a KoaBD point with a 3/3 just because he didn't buy Chapter 4.

I know the above assumes there will be a Chapter 4 and I will buy it, but you get the idea

Actually all they would have to do is have levels for the international title, even if it shows the exact same name. Say "International Cartographer (1)" if you have prophecies and factions. "International Cartographer (2)" if you all 3 currently available, and then just keep bouncing it up

you could have it change and follow the Cartography track for the world, Level 1 being Inter. Cartographer, 2 being Inter. Master Cartographer, etc.

A third way of doing it would be have each tier reached on more than one continent (say pathfinder for both Canta and Tyria) would get you International Pathfinder(1), the next simply using the same titles as the Cartography track up to Master and GM.

Sorry if I ramble, but I'm tired. Any of these ideas would possibly work to show international level, and could be adjusted for new chapters(some more easily than others).

But that's just my two cents

Nine Soul · Nov 16, 2006, 05:52 AM // 05:52

Voted in favor of splitting the title track. I don't see how it "cheapens" the title when (as many stated already) it's not THAT big of a deal (bad pun intended).

People Know Me would be closer to mine and everyone else's reach, and there will always be that next one that is really really hard to get. From my point of view - win win situation.

P.S. And yeah, don't count the International Titles towards KoaBD and PKM titles, just have them be bling bling, otherwise it would get TOO easy. You get three Elite Skill titles and a free 4th one? Nah.

=HT=Ingram · Nov 16, 2006, 06:11 AM // 06:11

I voted chapter specific, just cause I knew that was the most popular answer... In truth I'm good with it either way. whatever Anet wants to do with it. Its an optional title after all Just for allowing people to show off a little. Its not like Sunspear and Lightbringer titles that actually have a use... In reality I kind wish I could abandon a few titles, or at least sort them by Achieved or something, cause the list is too long on my Veteran characters. I only use 1 or 2 titles anyway... Cartographer, Treasure hunter, and Lightbringer. All of which are useful for getting parties.

Cartographer means you know your way around the maps...

Treasure hunter means you are a decent farmer and know when its a good time to open chests and when not too.

And Lightbringer is obvious for Realm of Torment advantages in parties...

all the others I really don't want at all, so I wish I could just turn them off or de-list / sort them or something... They are just for fun anyway...

XvArchonvX · Nov 16, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13

I'm honestly very glad to see a poll here on wiki asking our opinions. Thanks Gaile for keeping an open and fair ear open to the community here at Guru.

Scutilla · Nov 16, 2006, 06:15 AM // 06:15

Already posted my thoughts on GWO, so I won't repeat myself.

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Originally Posted by bamm bamm bamm

Actually, no. All Anet employees, be it artists, programmers or cleaners, all work on the same problem at the same time. In fact, their building is just a long corridor with a PC at the end, and they all queue up in front of it and work on 'The Problem', moving to the back when they've had their go. They blink with one eye at a time, because seeing with two is cheating. Gaile has been hogging the PC so much with this title fiasco, chapter 4 is now cancelled.

I admit, that got a giggle out of me ^_^

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Originally Posted by lg5000

The most usless skill for a skill hunter who's not a monk is probably spell breaker

On the other hand, due to the skill hunter title, I now have heros who can use any elite I feel like, where suddenly, spell breaker might come in useful.

My vote goes for Master of Magic on a non-ele. 25 energy for a spell that does... absolutely nothing!

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Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior

This is why I hesitate to go for titles. They can be dropped, changed etc, and we (those in the voting minority) have no say in it. Those that have acheived it are left hanging.

Um... you do have a say, just as much of one as everyone else. That's why it's been put up for discussion and a vote. Of course, on the other hand you can't expect ANet to bow to your every whim and ignore everyone else.

Please, if you disagree with the proposed change, give your reasoning. The only reason you don't have a say is because you didn't say anything

HawkofStorms · Nov 16, 2006, 06:25 AM // 06:25

How would elites that can be capped in multiple contenients be handled? Will crippling anguish count towards Tyrian, Elonan, or Canthan skill hunter? Will it be dependent on the actual place you capped it? Can that be done retroactively?

Although I would like to be able to get another point towards KoaBD, it does cheapen it and I must say, I see no reason to do it. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.

SilentVex · Nov 16, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31

I voted keep it the way it is. It will be less impressive if it's campaign specific. I'm impressed when I see an Elite Skill Hunter. The same won't be true for a Master Tyrian Skill Hunter.

natuxatu · Nov 16, 2006, 06:33 AM // 06:33

I like to max out my titles so I would really prefer it to be specific to each chapter. In some strange way it would make me to want to cap them all even more.

arcanemacabre · Nov 16, 2006, 06:41 AM // 06:41

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Originally Posted by SilentVex

I voted keep it the way it is. It will be less impressive if it's campaign specific. I'm impressed when I see an Elite Skill Hunter. The same won't be true for a Master Tyrian Skill Hunter.

I disagree. There are a handful of elites in each continent that are quite difficult to cap. Because of this, you could easily continent-skip and cap all the easy ones for one or two tiers of Skill Hunter. Since you will never be able to max skill hunter as it is (the crux of the matter), for a lot of people it's always going to feel incomplete.

I say allow there to be an option to have a KoaBD-like title for skill caps, cartographers, and protectors. Something that doesn't count toward KoaBD, but has ranks depending on how many titles you have 'completed' for each continent. Like "Big Deal in Tyria" and "Big Deal in Cantha". Or on the flip-side, how many continents you have completed for each title: "Globetrotter" (for 2 or more continents max cartographer) and "Protector of the Gods" (for 2 or more continents max protector).

Narutoscryed · Nov 16, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

As you may know, the Skill Hunter title in Guild Wars was designed to offer new tiers with the release of each campaign, so it doesn't ever max out. Some players have shared the opinion that they'd prefer to see campaign-specific Skill Hunter titles, similar to the campaign-specific Explorer and Protector titles. These new campaign-specific Skill Hunter title tracks would allow players to make progress with each campaign on the Kind of a Big Deal title track.

We're considering making that change, and we'd love to hear feedback from players, particularly those who are working hard to achieve the Skill Hunter or Kind of a Big Deal titles. Here's how a change might work:

We would phase out the existing Skill Hunter title, but replace it with three campaign-specific titles: Tyrian Skill Hunter, Canthan Skill Hunter, and Elonian Skill Hunter. Some people who had captured 90 elite skills or more but have not captured those 90 elite skills within any single campaign would lose their title. But everyone who enjoys working on this title track would gain access to three max-level titles, whereas currently the Skill Hunter title track has no max-level title.
For those who choose to pursue multiple regional titles--across all existing campaigns--we could add a snazzy "international" title, as well. For example, someone who had earned the titles Tyrian Skill Hunter, Canthan Skill Hunter, and Elonian Skill Hunter might also get the title International Skill Hunter. (As we introduce more campaigns, we'd introduce higher levels of the cross-campaign Skill Hunter title.)
At the same time, we could add cross-campaign titles for Cartographer and Protector, such as International Cartographer and International Protector. These would be awarded to players who had completed all three of the campaign-specific titles from those title tracks. We would of course be able to expand these title offerings with higher-level titles as new campaigns are released.
Adding three new max-level Skill Hunter titles would allow people to make additional progress towards the Kind of a Big Deal title track, and we may start seeing some players with the People Know Me title. Naturally, as the number of available max-level titles increases, we'll add more tiers on the combined-title track, beyond People Know Me.

So, the poll is above and we'd really like to hear from you. Please share your thoughts on the proposed changes.

Ya this is a much more important of a thing to ask our opinions on other than lets sayyy ohh i dont know.... the ai update.. good call.

come post in the "is anyone else bored" thread sometime gaile. im sure many would love to hear your opinion on some topics in it.

as for the titles...... i would not seperate them. because having someone with a HUGE rank in skill hunter spanning three seperate chapters would be much more cool than three seperate titles.

SilentVex · Nov 16, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

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Originally Posted by SilentVex

I'm impressed when I see an Elite Skill Hunter. The same won't be true for a Master Tyrian Skill Hunter.

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

I disagree. There are a handful of elites in each continent that are quite difficult to cap. Because of this, you could easily continent-skip and cap all the easy ones for one or two tiers of Skill Hunter.

Elite skill hunter requires 290 elite skills. Currently there are 291 elite skills obtainable (including the elite lightbringer signet). That's a lot more impressive than getting all the elites for any single campaign.

Tauren Arcanist · Nov 16, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

I've personally discussed this idea in game with a few of my guildmates/friends.

I was a bit surprised that this wasnt implemented already.

Its a great idea

arcanemacabre · Nov 16, 2006, 07:20 AM // 07:20

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Originally Posted by SilentVex

Elite skill hunter requires 290 elite skills. Currently there are 291 elite skills obtainable (including the elite lightbringer signet). That's a lot more impressive than getting all the elites for any single campaign.

I know what you were talking about. I was disagreeing with how impressive it is, compared to an individual campaign. It's all a matter of time spent vs. difficulty of acquiring. To me, it would be just as impressive to see a Tyrian Skill hunter as it would an Elite Skill Hunter. I just know the latter had a lot more time to accomplish a feat just as difficult as the former.

Right now, if someone only owned Tyria, and got all 90 caps, they would not be seen as impressive at all. It's something even I could do with my lazy playstyle, and owning all three.

Emik · Nov 16, 2006, 07:25 AM // 07:25

It really saddens me how many people vote yes 'becoz it was the most popluar answer'
Get an own opinion ffs.

I saw someone reply to my previous post that Core elites are not multi-cappable.
So that means that they
1. need to make skills recappable which is plain right BOLLOCKS.

or

2. let them count towards all three titles simultaneously which brings me back to my previous reply.

We've already got enuff half hanging titles and making such changes makes it even worse in the already hard to manage titles list with several unfilled things in it.
People with only Proph and Nightfall will have a never ever filled Factions title saying Canthan Skill hunter: 60/110 for instance
I mean come on, what gives.
I'm currently at 183 elites and i like my title.
It's the only thing i'm going for whether it counts towards KoaBD or not.
Skill Hunter shows devotion towards the gametitle and seperating them gets rid of that

I'd like all skillhunters and other repliers to post THEIR current eliteskill number and THEN vote instead of going with the 'majority' coz you don't have a mind of your own.
They'd best change the KoaBD title into CUT (Completely Useless Title) since everyone has it.